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I've seen this before, but don't quite know what it is. Does anyone have any idea?

http://skyvector.com/?ll=35.924416155621145,-75.6854957572385&chart=30&zoom=3&plan=A.K7.KMQI

asked May 08 '10 at 17:11

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edited May 10 '10 at 18:13

in my cockpit it's probably a coffee spill. :-)

(May 09 '10 at 00:58) Jeff Dale Jeff%20Dale's gravatar image

Is it possible to place a picture in the post?

(May 10 '10 at 18:13) wbeard52 wbeard52's gravatar image

Yes, but you have to upload the picture somewhere first. There's no way to upload one and you can't do any advanced html (like putting in an embedded map :( ). I'm looking at other software packages for this site and that's one of the features I'm looking for in the next version.

(May 10 '10 at 19:42) Patrick Pohler ♦♦ Patrick%20Pohler's gravatar image

The link you just added works, I see the G-13 route you're talking about...that's pretty weird

(May 10 '10 at 19:42) Patrick Pohler ♦♦ Patrick%20Pohler's gravatar image

I think I found the answer in the FAR/AIM "Everything you wanted to know about flying, if only you could find it."

http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/aim/Chap5/aim0503.html

Section 5.3.4 Airways and Route Systems 1 (a):

NOTE- Segments of VOR airways in Alaska and North Carolina (V56, V290) are based on L/MF navigation aids and charted in brown instead of blue on en route charts.

2(b)

(b) The L/MF airways (colored airways) are predicated solely on L/MF navigation aids and are depicted in brown on aeronautical charts and are identified by color name and number (e.g., Amber One). Green and Red airways are plotted east and west. Amber and Blue airways are plotted north and south.

NOTE- Except for G13 in North Carolina, the colored airway system exists only in the state of Alaska. All other such airways formerly so designated in the conterminous U.S. have been rescinded.

So what in the heck is L/MF navigation? L/MF stands for Low to Medium Frequency and it is used for NDB airways.

From Aviator's Guide to Navigation

The third type of NDB is the en route airway beacon. These are medium-powered transmitters with a standard range of 50 nautical miles. En route airway beacons are quite common in other parts of the world, including Canada and the Caribean. NDB airways are called L/MF airways (for low/medium frequency), and are identified, like all international airways, by letter and number. Alpha and bravo airways run generally north and south, romeo and golf airways generally run east and west. (Tranditionally, international airways have been identified by color: amber, blue, red, and green.)

Pretty awesome, I'm really curious about flying one now. I think the blog Cockpit Conversations had a story about using an NDB airway for a commercial flight. NDB navigation is becoming a dying art.

answered May 10 '10 at 16:58

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edited May 10 '10 at 20:08

No, it's definitely an airway and not a MTR. It has a "G13" next to it. It appears to go to an airport named Dare County Regional (MQI) airport.

(May 10 '10 at 18:11) wbeard52 wbeard52's gravatar image

Cool, updated my answer...awesome question!

(May 10 '10 at 20:08) Patrick Pohler ♦♦ Patrick%20Pohler's gravatar image

Thanks for the info. I have never flown one either. There is no magnetic course off of the NDB either, so I really not sure how to ensure you are on the airway.

(May 11 '10 at 03:26) wbeard52 wbeard52's gravatar image
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