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"Position and Hold" seemed like a reasonable phrase to use. Does anyone know what the reason was for changing it? I find the new term to be a little silly. It is akin to "Get up and go!"

asked Oct 13 '10 at 09:54

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edited Oct 13 '10 at 09:55


I googled this and apparently it is an effort to "Standardize" with ICAO since the FAA felt that "position and hold" could be confusing.

IMO neither of the phrases is really very good.

answered Oct 13 '10 at 10:40

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All the other ICAO countries, have been using "Line up and wait" for quite awhile now. The U.S. is the last to transition to the' standard. For a pilot whose first language is not english, "position and hold" has been interpretated as "Cleared for takeoff", "roll down the runway", "hold closer to the hold lines", and "enter the runway and stop". What language would you prefer to convey the correct meaning to every pilot of an ICAO country?

(Oct 13 '10 at 20:19) wbeard52 wbeard52's gravatar image

Good example of answering your own question Tim! I think the new phrase is clearer to the intent.

Also I'm glad this site wasn't named "position and hold" :)

(Oct 13 '10 at 21:47) Patrick Pohler ♦♦ Patrick%20Pohler's gravatar image

When I'm told to "line up and wait" I respond "roger, position and hold"

answered Oct 22 '10 at 20:59

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